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CryoFall => Development discussion => Topic started by: Lurler on March 30, 2017, 09:32:08 pm

Title: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on March 30, 2017, 09:32:08 pm
(https://atomictorch.com/Images/Upload/10373.png)

I decided to create a new topic for this, as the old ones have somewhat outdated information, so rather than adding a ton of disclaimers and corrections everywhere, here's a new topic!

But if you still would like to read other topics with the old info - you can find them here:
About CryoFall in general and some images - http://forums.atomictorch.com/index.php?topic=884.0
Art and screenshots - http://forums.atomictorch.com/index.php?topic=886.0
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on March 30, 2017, 09:36:37 pm
Anyway, here's the first bit of new info:

Blog post: CryoFall Dev.Blog #15 - Oil Industry (https://atomictorch.com/Post/Id1177/CryoFall-DevBlog-15-Oil-Industry)

Images (click on the images to enlarge):
(https://atomictorch.com/Images/Upload/10392.png)
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Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on March 30, 2017, 09:39:14 pm
Blog post: CryoFall Dev.Blog #16 - Buildings (https://atomictorch.com/Post/Id1178/CryoFall-DevBlog-16-Buildings)

Images (click on the images to enlarge):
(https://atomictorch.com/Images/Upload/10395.png)
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on March 31, 2017, 12:19:25 am
The buildings remind me of VoidExpanse stations "style", and i like them.
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on March 31, 2017, 01:49:43 am
The buildings remind me of VoidExpanse stations "style", and i like them.
You know... now that you mention it - it really does look similar :)
I guess that's inevitable considering that it's the same people making both games (us).
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on April 07, 2017, 02:36:10 am
Blog post: CryoFall Dev.Blog #17 - Character Skills (https://atomictorch.com/Post/Id1179/CryoFall-DevBlog-17-Character-Skills)

Images (click on the images to enlarge):
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Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on April 16, 2017, 11:45:30 pm
This is not enough for a separate blogpost, but I wanted to still share it. So, here it is on the forums!

Images (click on the images to enlarge):
(https://atomictorch.com/Images/Upload/10398.png)

Basically what it is - is a display case. You can put any items inside to display them in your house. Or you can create a museum with paid admission with some rare stuff :)
Yes, paid admission will be possible with a special device like in subways where you have to pay to pass through.
But it's a bit early for that, of course. For now just what you see above :)
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on April 17, 2017, 01:22:54 am
Can we display body parts too ? I have a nice and joyfull idea, "My Enemies Museum".
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on April 17, 2017, 04:17:14 am
Can we display body parts too ? I have a nice and joyfull idea, "My Enemies Museum".
That's an... unexpected question :)
Well, we did plan for you to be able to put animal trophies in there (like wolf head and such) but certainly not body parts :)
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on April 20, 2017, 09:56:49 pm
Hm... I wonder what could that be? ;)

(http://atomictorch.com/Images/forum/gems.png)

Initially I was hoping we could finish farming today, but it doesn't look like we will be able to, so I will post that next week in our blog. So for now here's a small pic of the gems that you can find in the game. And yes, they will be equally as rare as in reality. Forget other games where you can find gems like dirt everywhere. Here it will be an item of luxury that rarely anyone can afford! :)

PS - as always props to our artist for the amazing art :)
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on April 21, 2017, 03:31:32 am
Hm... I wonder what could that be? ;)

Hm, let me guess...

the gems that you can find in the game

Some of the gems that you can find in the game ?
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on April 26, 2017, 12:05:06 am
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I wonder what you guys think of this approach to farming mechanics. Specifically, as you see above - making seeds craftable and requiring additional resources depending on the amount that is possible to harvest from a single plant, number of harvests and how difficult it is to raise a particular plant.
The tomato plant in the example above gives quite a lot of tomatoes, so to offset the ease at which you receive them - I decided to make the recipe for actual seeds a bit more difficult and requiring you to have fertilizer. Other plants also have different recipes depending on particular plant properties.

The way I try to design that stuff it to completely ignore other games and their mechanics and just try to think how it would be most fun while being most balanced. Hopefully you guys share this approach, even if it is a bit unorthodox :)

Anyway, I'd like to hear your opinion on that :)
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on April 26, 2017, 02:09:50 am
And in addition to my previous message - here is a full blogpost with more info about farming!

Blog post: CryoFall Dev.Blog #18 - Farming (https://atomictorch.com/Post/Id1180/CryoFall-DevBlog-18-Farming)

Images (click on the images to enlarge):
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Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on April 26, 2017, 03:12:56 am
Hi,

Is there a quality system ?

I'd like one day to see a game with quality vegetables are not the ones made with chemical and machine, but the ones planted by hand with selected seed from the best breed... Just like in real life, i you eat one "real hand made" apple, tomatoe or basically any kind of food, you can't ignore the difference with the "industrial" apple... More taste, better nutriement, need to eat less to fill full and well...
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on April 26, 2017, 03:35:57 am
Certainly not for the time being, as we didn't want to overcomplicate the system from the very beginning. But we are absolutely open to such things in the future when we have better idea of how it all plays together and how people use what we already have.

As for having more meaning in using different food - there will be a system that will track what your character eats and give you different effects accordingly (either positive or negative). This will be implemented during beta phase most likely.

Either way, I personally think what we have now is quite fun as-is. Hopefully we can launch the next closed test soon, so people can give in a try finally! :)
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on April 27, 2017, 11:32:46 pm
Just wanted to share it for no particular reason :)

(https://atomictorch.com/Images/Upload/10402.png)

The art was finished yesterday, so I added that stuff into the game today. Now we are officially finished with farming implementation.
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on April 28, 2017, 12:26:35 am
If they are different "levels", that's the kind of "progress" i don't like much in survival games. For some tools yes, wood < stone < iron makes sense, but i can drink as well in a wooden cup as in a glass one.

Anyway, the art of the game is cute and readable so far, and i only want to see more.
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on April 28, 2017, 01:26:05 am
No worries, we aren't blindly following what's considered "the norm", even for the most trivial things we are trying to find some new ideas that would make the game a bit more interesting and engaging :)
Same applies here, depending on what you are after you might use different types of the same item.
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on May 05, 2017, 10:20:24 pm
New blogpost!

Blog post: CryoFall Dev.Blog #19 - Cooking (http://atomictorch.com/Post/Id1181/CryoFall-DevBlog-19-Cooking)

Images (click on the images to enlarge):
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Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on May 18, 2017, 12:01:24 am
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We've just finished adding this new suit!
But frankly we aren't entirely sure what to even call it now :)
It is supposed to be a good combination of conventional armored suit as well as environmental protection suit (aka hazmat).
As you can see in the screenshot below we are currently just calling it "Environmental Protection Armor", but I don't really like that name. Not to mention it's too long.
Maybe you guys have some better ideas what to call it?

(https://atomictorch.com/Images/Upload/10404.png)

PS - another interesting thing about this armor is that it occupies all three slots (head+chest+legs) unlike all other armor sets.
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on May 18, 2017, 02:00:20 am
APART ? Environmental Protection Armor Requiring Trisloted.
GPS ? Green Padded Suit
Void Armor ?
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on May 18, 2017, 02:03:58 am
APART ? Environmental Protection Armor Requiring Trisloted.
GPS ? Green Padded Suit
Void Armor ?
The first one is funny, I like it :)
That's literally what it is!
Not sure if we will actually use it, but it's a decent candidate :)
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on May 31, 2017, 02:36:59 am
New blogpost!

Blog post: CryoFall Dev.Blog #20 - Production chains (https://atomictorch.com/Post/Id1182/CryoFall-DevBlog-20-Production-chains)

Images (click on the images to enlarge):
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Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on May 31, 2017, 07:37:05 am
I was wondering where were the updates !

Well about the production chaines, it's classic and effective, i would say. I hope there are more than one ressource for each material. For example sugar from at least 4 different plants - i don't know their names in english. Under ground, ground, tree, flower...

I like the arts, also.
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: kyokei on May 31, 2017, 09:34:29 am
More I look at the updates, more I want to try the game - and this a good feeling to have - so AI, hurry up with the linux client <3
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on May 31, 2017, 01:26:26 pm
hurry up with the linux client <3

Oui oui oui !
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on May 31, 2017, 09:52:05 pm
Guys! We will have the second closed test VERY soon.

Right now we are implementing (or rather ai_enabled is implementing, I should say) the new serialization library to enable the game to save and when that's done we will launch that second closed test. I really hope you guys can be a part of it!

Although, I must say again that there won't be a linux build any time soon, sorry. We just can't afford to split our efforts into supporting several OS at this point as this would only slow the development down. The plan it to have a solid beta first, and then, when it's quite close to being ready, then we will be able to also create and support other OSes. But linux build is certainly a priority for us. Our first two games were received very well by the linux community, so we certainly wouldn't want to disappoint you guys with this one :)
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on June 01, 2017, 08:40:38 am
I understand Linux coming later in development, and i trust you for doing a good port then, as your previous ones where nice with great suuport. As long as it's good for release day (and not 2 years later like some other devs...) it's fine.
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: kyokei on June 02, 2017, 09:49:01 am
I completely agree with the Linux client - but once you guys do a more public launch then I have to say that you really need to support the 3 OS's. Games with early Linux support are highly appreciated by the community.

I sadly don't run Windows anymore so I won't be able to help out on these tests.

btw Lurler, Kunix is ready to host a dedicated server for Cryofall
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on June 06, 2017, 02:24:15 am
New blogpost!

Blog post: CryoFall Dev.Blog #21 - Environmental assets (https://atomictorch.com/Post/Id1183/CryoFall-DevBlog-21-Environmental-assets)

Images (click on the images to enlarge):
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Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on June 06, 2017, 03:21:28 am
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they will also be emitting a substantial amount of radiation wherever they're placed.

That's nice ! I guess you will have more of these effects later. Can you shot at them so they may explode or at least release their contain ?
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on June 06, 2017, 03:32:21 am
That's nice ! I guess you will have more of these effects later.
Certainly, we plan to have a whole bunch of different environmental effects and anomalies.
Well, otherwise there wouldn't be a reason to have so many stats in an armor :)

Can you shot at them so they may explode or at least release their contain ?
Probably not, because they need to be there for that effect to work. But maybe we will add separate exploding barrels that could respawn or something along these lines.
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on June 18, 2017, 10:12:31 pm
We are launching our second closed test.
Please find all important information in the following thread:
http://forums.atomictorch.com/index.php?topic=952.0
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on August 31, 2017, 03:10:08 am
Been a while, eh? :)

Well, here's something new! :)

(https://atomictorch.com/Images/Upload/10410.png)

And the blogpost: https://atomictorch.com/Post/Id1185/CryoFall-DevBlog-22-Status-effects
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on August 31, 2017, 03:30:01 am
Launch ? Yeah ! I hope Linux is still a thing.

What are the colors for ? My guess :

Green - positive
White -
Orange - severe
Red - emergency
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on August 31, 2017, 03:51:34 am
You were almost correct with your guess regarding the colors :)

It's actually slightly simpler than that:
* Negative: yellow, orange, red (depending on intensity)
* Positive: light green, green, dark green (depending on intensity)
* Neutral: white

As for Linux - It is absolutely on our list! However, as we mentioned several times before we will not be able to start the work on that until the game is in relatively stable state (and our team as a whole in a better financial state), so for now it will have to be Windows only. But as soon as we feel the game is stable enough and doesn't require constant changes of its guts then we will create versions for Linux and Mac. Otherwise we will simply be splitting the development efforts and only slowing down the whole thing.

Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: ai_enabled on August 31, 2017, 11:51:44 pm
I hope Linux is still a thing.
Sure, and .NET Core 2.0 was just released so it will be much easier. But there are still many obstacles as I wrote here http://forums.atomictorch.com/index.php?topic=970.0
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on September 05, 2017, 03:54:39 am
Good to read Linux is on the list. I know about the "obstacles" part and as a small team, you have to prioritize.

Cheers, i'm really curious to see what Cryofall can do, and mostly, what the mods will offer.
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on September 12, 2017, 02:34:33 am
New blogpost!

(https://atomictorch.com/Images/Upload/10411.png)

Read more about that stuff: https://atomictorch.com/Post/Id1186/CryoFall-DevBlog-23-Medical-items

I showed some of those pics before, but now as we finally added the status effects (see the previous blog entry) we also finalized all medical items and added proper effects as you'd expect them to have.
So far it plays amazing in the game! I can't wait for your guys to try the game yourself! :)
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on September 12, 2017, 06:14:30 am
Seems good so far !

 The arts are clean and easy to read in a quick look, i think it's important too.

I like the preventive drugs like IRL, for radiation but also some disease.

What about Vaccins ?
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Lurler on September 12, 2017, 11:03:11 pm
What about Vaccins ?
You mean for diseases? Well... I think it's going a bit too far :)
Sure, we will consider something like that in the future, but certainly not at the moment. There are still a ton of other things we need to implement first for the first public release.
But when the core game is complete, maybe somewhere around beta we will start looking at existing systems and expanding where it makes sense.
Title: Re: CryoFall - new screenshots & news
Post by: Tchey on September 13, 2017, 01:52:55 am
It could be for 1 week or so, to fit the gameplay, or cost a lot to produce, with maybe some side effects, like immune to A but more sensitive to B.

Or not, it just was a quick flash in my mind !